Scenario 1 - Part 3:

The patient had been treated with Intravenous fluids, diuretics, and calcitonin. Two weeks later, the patient’s symptoms had gradually improved and had been discharged with normal serum calcium and creatinine. 

  1. Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.
  2. Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.

30 Comments

  • Marwa Alm


    The pt should be advised no to take OCT medications, including nutritional vitamin D, good hydration, continue out patient follow up with S.Ca and 25(OH)D levels
    Vitamin D status is measured by 25(OH)D level as it reflects body stores with longer 1/2 life, but the bioactive form 1,25(OH)2D with short 1/2 life is of value in granulomatous diseases where it will show high value despite normal/reduced 25(OH)D.

  • Khaldon Rashed Ahmed Moqbil


    • recheck vid d level after 3 months and avoid over counter medicin
  • Areij Alotaibi


    1- good hydration, to avoid over encounter medication without prescription
    check vitamin D every 3-6 months

    2- 25OH D level for vitamin D deficiency
    1,25 specific for some disease like sarcoidosis

  • Asma Aljaberi


    1. Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    The patient should maintain good hydration, avoid nephrotoxic drugs, and keep off vit D for now. He will need to check the 25 OH Vit D3 level in 3 months. If the level is normal, he can only resume the Daily recommended dose of vit D 600 iu daily, preferably through food.

    1. Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay to assess vit D status.

    25 (OH)Vit D is usually the recommended testing for the general population as it has a longer half-life. 1-25 OH Vit D (has short half life) measures the active form Vit D3 and needs to be tested when the conversion from Vit D3 to 1-25 OH vit D increases, such as in granulomatous diseases.

  • Muhammad Soobadar


    1 stop vitamin D
    diet

  • Mohamed Abdulahi Hassan


    patient should obtain good hydration and stop over the counter buying of vitamin d supplement ,
    Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.
    although the 1,25(OH) D3 is the biological active form of vitamin d it can not be the ideal measurement for vitamin d status .the reason is the circulating of1,25(OH)D the half life is only 4-6hrs .the circulating 1,25(OH)D are much less than 25(OH)D, when patient is vitamin d deficiency there is a decline in intestinal calcium absorption .

  • Mark Nagy Zaki Amin Mark


    1- stop over the counter medications containing excess vit D , good oral hydration

  • Rania Mahmoud


    Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    • Stop vit D or decrease dose of high vitamin D supplements. 
    • Planning and assessing nutrient intakes of vit D
    • Frequent monitoring of serum calcium and vit D 25 level.

    Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status

    • Serum levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) are used to establish an individual’s vitamin D status, while the biologically active molecule, 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D (1,25(OH)2D), is produced by the hydroxylation of 25(OH)D primarily in the kidneys under the regulation of parathyroid hormone (PTH) and serum calcium
    • Serum 25(OH)D is the barometer for vitamin D status. Serum 1,25(OH)2D provides no information about vitamin D status and is often normal or even elevated due to secondary hyperparathyroidism associated with vitamin D deficiency. Most experts agree that 25(OH)D of < 20 ng/ml is considered to be vitamin D deficiency whereas a 25(OH)D of 21-29 ng/ml is considered to be insufficient. The goal should be to maintain both children and adults at a level > 30 ng/ml to take full advantage of all the health benefits that vitamin D provides.
  • Rabab Elrefaey


    1.Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    Discontinue or decrease dose of high vitamin D supplements. 
    To ingest vitamin D naturally, you can eat foods that are rich in it, including:
    cod liver oil, fatty fish, such as salmon and tuna, beef liver, cheese, egg yolks.

    2. Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.

    Serum 25(OH)D is the barometer for vitamin D status.

    Direct serum detection of 1,25(OH)2D is unlikely to occur, because a sample pre-purification will always be required.

    The circulating half-life of circulating 1,25(OH)D is only 4-6 hours. Circulating levels of 1,25(OH)D are a thousand-fold less than 25(OH)D. As a patient becomes vitamin D deficient, there is a decrease in intestinal calcium absorption which lowers ionized calcium transiently. This signal is recognized by the calcium sensor in the parathyroid glands to increase the production and secretion of parathyroid hormone (PTH). PTH regulates calcium metabolism by increasing tubular reabsorption of calcium in the kidney, increasing mobilization of calcium from the skeleton and by increasing the renal production of 1,25(OH)D. Thus, if the patient becomes vitamin D insufficient and deficient, the increase in PTH levels results in normal or elevated serum 1,25 (OH)D

  • Mahmoud Elsheikh


    Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient: patient education and counselling
    Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status
    25[OH]D3:is the major circulating form of vitamin D.half-life of two to three weeks. It has activity at bone and intestine but is less than 1% as potent as 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, the most active form of vitamin D.
    1,25(OH) D3:The half-life is approximately four to six hours. 25[OH]D3 is recommended for measuring the status of vit D level in the all population.

  • Asmaa Salih KHUDHUR


    1. Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    Dietary education
    stop any vit D supplementation
    frequent monitoring of serum calcium and vit D 25 level.

    1. Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.

    Serum 25(oH)D3 represent total storage in the body and used for measurement of vit D status. long half life .
    1,25(OH)D3 short half-life, reflect kidney function,more expensive.

  • Rabab ALaa Eldin keshk Rabab


    1-long term management
    Stop vit D intake avoid unnecessary multivitamin intake good hydration regular check serum pth ca po4 and follow up renal function with avoidance any nephritoxic madications
    2- the rational is vit D is rapidly converted to 25(OH)D, but in serum only a fraction of 25(OH)D is converted to its active metabolite 1,25(OH)2D. Thus, measurement of the total 25(OH)D level is the best test to assess body stores vit D

  • Riaan Flooks


    Long-term plan:

    • Advice the patient on the chronic use of Vit D and to stop its use, and patient should keep well hydrated

    25(OH)D vs 1,25(OH)2D:

    • 25(OH)D
    • used to assess Vit D status
    • longer half-life
    • according to KDIGO, supplementation is carried out as in the general population
  • Ahmed Altalawy


    1. Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    Stop the Vitamin D.
    Good hydration.
    Re-education about the risk of Vitamin D intoxication.

    2. Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.
    Vitamin D is rapidly converted to 25(OH)D, but in serum only a fraction of 25(OH)D is converted to its active metabolite 1,25(OH)2D. Thus, measurement of the total 25(OH)D level is the best test to assess body stores of vitamin D

  • Abdulrahman Almutawakel


    PATIENT NOT NEEDS FOR ANY FURTHER PLANS ONLY EDUCATION REGARDING DIET AND VIT D INTAKE AND ALSO LAB TESTS FOR VIT D CALCIUM AND KFT

  • HASSAN ALYAMMAHI


    • Education of patient, emphasizing that sunlight is a good generator of vitamin D if exposed to appropriately. Follow with measurements of Ca, Vit D, and PTH
    • the 25-OH-vitD represent the total storage of vitD in the body. The 1,25 (OH)VitD is the active one responsible for most actions and is normally reflective of kidney function.
  • Israa Hammoodi


    1 dietary advice, encourage excessive fluid intake, stop vitamin D supplements
    Monitor s. Ca, 25 OH vitamin D3
    2. The level of 1,25 Dihydr. Vit D will decrease when progressive decrease in GFR.
    25 OH vitamin D reflect the storage.

  • Amna Kununa


    Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    • patient education and counselling (The National Academy of Medicine has defined the “tolerable upper intake level” for vitamin D as 4000 iu daily for healthy adults)
    • continues dietitian input

    Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status

    25[OH]D3:

    • is the major circulating form of vitamin D.
    • half-life of two to three weeks.
    • It has activity at bone and intestine but is less than 1% as potent as 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, the most active form of vitamin D.

    1,25(OH) D3:

    • The half-life is approximately four to six hours. 

    25[OH]D3 is recommended for measuring the status of vitD level in the all population.

  • Nour Al Natout


    1. Because of vitamin D Accumulation , i will follow up Vitamin D level , phosphate and calcium over 1-3-6 month. The Patient should be educated to not use OTC drugs without consulting the doctor
    2. In Assessment of of vitamin D Status it is important to know 25OH Vitamin D because it give us ”Big picture” about the whole quantity of Vitamin D taken in diets and drugs. 1,25OH VitD3 may make sense to measure if the patient take VDRA , or has lymphoproliferative disease or sarcoidosis.
  • KAMAL ELGORASHI


    Long-term management plan

    • Serial measure of vitD, and serum Ca,monthly.
    • Monitor symptoms.
    • Encourage oral fluid intake.

    The rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status

    • Patient CKD S 3-4.
    • KDIGO recommend; In patients with CKD G3a-G5D, we suggest that 25(OH)D (calcidiol) levels might be measured, and repeated testing determined by baseline values and therapeutic interventions (2C). We suggest that vitamin D deficiency and insufficiency be corrected using treatment strategies recommended for the general population (2C).
    • We suggest not to routinely prescribe vitamin D supplements or vitamin D analogs, in the absence of suspected or documented deficiency, to suppress elevated PTH concentrations in people with CKD not on dialysis. (2B)
  • Hagar Ali


    1. counseling about how to deal with OTC medication and vitamins

    follow up his renal function as he suffered from AKI which is a risk factor for CKD
    2.  serum 25(OH)D3 easy to measure ,accurate , available and affordable

  • Weam El Nazer


    1. Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    Stop the Vitamin D.
    Good hydration.
    Re-education about the risk of Vit-D intoxication.

    1. Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in the assessment of vit D status.

    1,25-OH-D3 falls as CKD progresses and can be difficult to accurately measure, as the circulating concentration can be 1000 times lower than the 25-OH-D3 value. The level may appear normal in CKD with secondary hyperparathyroidism.

    25(OH)D3 is more accurate and reflects the storage of vitamin D.

  • Rihab Elidrisi


    1. Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    This patient has to follow Ca , PTH and 25(oh) d level on the long term

    1. Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.

    259oh0D3 is the commonly used test to check the Vit D LEVEL IN THE BODY AND EASY TO PERFORM

  • Ben Lomatayo


    Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient

    1. Counseling
    2. Education about drugs and their side effects
    3. Follow up : to ensure that vitamin D level is optimal , AKI is a risk factors for CKD

    Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vitamin D status.

    • 25(OH) D3 is commonly used to access the vitamin D levels, it easy, available, not complicated. 1,25(OH) D3 may be difficult to perform , not widely available and it is more expensive as well. 25(OH)D3 is the assay used in most studies of vitamin D
  • MOHAMMED HAJI HASSAN


    1. Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    Follow up vit D levels, calcium and PTH
    2.Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.

    Vitamin D is converted into active metabolite 1,25(OH) vit D.
    The measurement of 25-OH-D is becoming increasingly important in the management of patients with various disorders of calcium metabolism

  • Ashraf Ahmed Mahmoud


    1. Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.
    • follow up .25(OH)D.level .
    • s.Ca , PTH.

    Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.

    Serum 25(OH)D is the barometer for vitamin D status.
    It is the only vitamin D metabolite that is used to determine whether a patient is vitamin D deficient, sufficient or intoxicated. 25(OH)D is the major circulating form of vitamin D that has a half life of approximately 2-3 weeks

    Serum 1,25(OH)2D provides no information about vitamin D status and is often normal or even elevated due to secondary hyperparathyroidism associated with vitamin D deficiency half life of approximately 4-6 hours.

  • Emad mohamed mokbel Salem


    1-long term management plan for this patient :
    education and explaination about his condition and avoid any over the counter medication and herbal
    2-good hydration

    2-vitamin D is rapidly converted to 25(OH)D, but in serum only a fraction of 25(OH)D is converted to its active metabolite 1,25(OH)2D. Thus, measurement of the total 25(OH)D level is the best test to assess body stores of vitamin D

    

  • Elsayed Ghorab


    follow up lab investigation
    RFT
    assessment vit.d
    maintain between 20-40 ng/ml > than 30ng /ml

  • Ibrahim Omar


    Suggest a long-term management plan for this patient.

    • check 25-Hhydroxy Vit. D every 3 months.
    • once it is lower than 30 ng/ml, 600 units daily can be resumed.

    Appraise the rationale of serum 25(OH)D3& 1,25(OH) D3 assay in assessment of vit D status.

    • 25 hydroxy Vit. D is recommended for measuring the status in the general population and also CKD patients.
    • 1,25 hydroxy Vit. D is recommended in patients with possible excessive extra-renal activation as in sarcoidosis, lymphoma, other chronic granulomatous diseases.

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